We had a discussion on social media of this topic.
(I wonder if this might be helpful to others.)
Samuel Cobb
John 2:15 - Jesus made a whip
π Craig Adams
"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus
for good works which he appointed before time for us to do."
It's difficult for me to submit to improper/false authority
when I keep my eye on the task.
I spend enough time distracted as it is, I've no time for
such foolishness.
Cathy Myers
Usually quote a good man's steps are ordered by the Lord-
remind myself. Psalms 37:3 and remind others God doesn’t usually send my
mail.to them first!
Matilda Bob
no weapon formed against me Is 54:17
Julie Barnett
2 Tim 1:7. We have a sound mind under the leadership of the
Holy Spirit. No one else has the permission unless we give it to them.
Christine MacDonald
2 that I use:
Gaatians 5 v 1
"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Do not
allow yourselves to be bound again to a yoke of slavery."
Philippians 2 v 9-10
"Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven
and on earth and under the earth."
Ultimately manipulation has it's roots in witchcraft so I
think it's important to exalt Jesus above all that cr*p!
Judy Walker
Look them in the eye and let my yes be yes and my no - no.
Darlene Sanchez
I tell people God doesn't gossip and tell other people whst
I am suppose to be doing that I am his workmanship and led by his Spirit to do
his purpose
Diana Kay Adams Smith
Whom the Son sets free, is free indeed
❣️
Al Mack
In John 8:36 "So if the Son sets you free you will be
free indeed."
Darlene Sanchez
Those who are led by the Spirit are the sons of Papa God
Dan Smith
The more I know who I am in Christ, the less anyone can
manipulate me. It's really easy to spot carnal advice or suggestions when you
are secure with who you are.
I don't know if I can point to a single verse.
Romans 12:2 is pretty good though.
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be
transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and
approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Hope Gerry Evarts
Gal. 1:10 Am I now trying to win the approval of human
beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to
please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.
Mary Sue Davis
I just don’t let them do it and choose not to be offended.
Rob Coscia
The big hardcover one.
Jk. For me, it’s every scripture about his peace. Peace that
makes you whole, peace that guards your heart and mind, peace that enables you
to sleep through storms, or to take authority over them when your friends are
trying to manipulate you with fear and guilt.
“Don’t let your hearts be distressed and afraid! I’m
imparting an amazing gift to you—my peace. Not the fragile, conditional peace
the world uses, but my peace of complete wholeness, unassailable confidence,
transformational calm, and immeasurable blessing” (John 14:27, paraphrase).
Lisa Thompson
Rob Coscia, great response.
Shelley McDaniels
I balance Colossians 2:16-23 with 1 Corinthians 8:9-13.
Al Mack
http://nwp.link/ShelleysVerses Shelley McDaniels
Al Mack thanks. And 1 Corinthians 8:9-13
9 But beware lest somehow this liberty of yours become a
stumbling block to those who are weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have
knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will not the conscience of him who is
weak be emboldened to eat those things offered to idols? 11 And because of your
knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12 But when you
thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against
Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat
meat, lest I make my brother stumble.
Anthony Thunder Mouth Smith
Saved by Grace through Faith and not your OWN.
Grace releases you from religious control
Al Mack
Ephesians 2:8
Jonathan Christie
“Let your love abound with all discernment...” Philippians
1:9
Michael Ferry
How about the Gospel according to Mike?π€£π€£π€£π€£
Michael Ferry
“Thou’s opinion is thus of no significant influence upon my
freedom in Christ to live and walk free from thine down looking pressure to
submit!”π€£π€£π€£π€£
Cameo Chambers
Do I need scriptures to resist these things? I just have a
pretty keen sense and don't tolerate it.
Al Mack
Same here. But in this case, I felt the need to pray some
scriptures, and I realized I needed more ammunition from the community. π
Lisa Southwick
No specific scripture, but the one that says, Those who
follow the Spirit of God are the sons of God. HE has told me that
"Righteousness does not submit to unrighteousness." & I use that
all the time, in these types of situations... but, of course, that is not in
the bible... but, it was the Word of God to me. π
Al Mack
Romans 8:14: For all who are being led by the Spirit of God,
these are sons and daughters of God. π
I love how you're using logos and rhema together! π
Gloria Mayo
“We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against
the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,”
2 Corinthians 10:5 ESV
Jacquelyn Golden
This thread is like a breath of fresh air!
Al Mack
Isn't it, though! π
Robert Blok
I pretty much see through those things now. But if pressed,
Love one another, as Jesus has loved you.
John 13:34
Leona Gay Townsend
It’s not a scripture but Holy Spirit spoke this to my heart
years ago, I wrote it, therefore I can say to satan that it is written. He said
to me, “Submit to authority, but never to control.”
Al Mack
"...therefore I can say it is written!"
I love it! Warring with the prophetic word!
1Timmy 1:18 This charge I commit to you, son Timothy,
according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you
may wage the good warfare,
Tesa Wallace
Subdue the earth and conquer it! That includes all the self
righteous religibots going to and fro seeking whom they may devour
Judy Brost
Get behind me Satan
Luke 4:8 etc.
Eldon Frye
Eph. 6
Susan Roemhild
Greater is He that is in me then he who is in the world π
1 John 4:4
Thomas Patrick Brown
i would have to look them up , but Jesus , peter , and paul
all said that those in spiritual authority r not to ' lord it over ' another
sheep's faith
Mark 10:42-44, for example
Brenda Bastanzi
Slow to speak James 1:19
Stevie Dotson
I do what Michael did when contending with Satan over the
body of Moses, all he said is, The Lord Rebuke You π€
Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the
devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a
reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
Sandra Hines Carney
Mostly, I don't answer fools according to their folly (Prov
26:4). Control/manip people like to argue & I just won't. But if they press
the "you shouldn'ts", I usually mention "to the pure, all things
are pure..." or "all things are permissable...". (I try to use
good sense to avoid stuff that isn't beneficial.)
Titus 1:15
Shelley McDaniels
And another one I use when fending off legalism (vs sincere
holiness) is John 6:28 -29 AMP
28 Then they asked Him, “What are we to do, so that we may
habitually be doing the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered, “This is the work of God: that you believe
[adhere to, trust in, rely on, and have faith] in the One whom He has sent.”
Jerry Dean Miller
Right off the top of my head (and having looked them up
afterward):
"But Jesus called them to Himself and said, 'You know
that the rulers of the Gentiles domineer over them, and those in high position
exercise authority over them. It is not this way among you, but whoever wants
to become prominent among you shall be your servant." Matt 20:25-26
"But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one
Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth your father,
for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Nor are you to be called
instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you
shall be your servant. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever
humbles himself will be exalted." Matt 23:8-12
I can gladly serve somebody but the second they start acting
like I have to obey them, it's over, Prime.
"But Hebrews 13" - aaaah, yes, Hebrews 13
"Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they
watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with
joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."
It turns out Jesus did not contradict himself when he
inspired the book of Hebrews.
The phrase, "that have the rule over you" is
translated from the Greek word, "hΔgeomai" which CAN mean someone who
is actually in command of someone else, but Jesus' own words about not
"lording it over" tell us it can't be used that way here, and the
word has other meanings such as "to lead" or "to go before"
and "to consider, deem, account, think"
"Obey" here is translated from "peithΕ",
which means:
-persuade
- to persuade, i.e. to induce one by words to believe (in
this case "be persuaded by")
- to make friends of, to win one's favour, gain one's good
will, or to seek to win one, strive to please one
- to tranquillise
- to persuade unto i.e. move or induce one to persuasion to
do something
- be persuaded
- to be persuaded, to suffer one's self to be persuaded; to
be induced to believe: to have faith: in a thing
- to believe
- to be persuaded of a thing concerning a person
- to listen to, obey, yield to, comply with
- to trust, have confidence, be confident
These were approved trustworthy people the author of Hebrews
was referring to. Jesus also said you can know a tree from its fruit, so this
would not apply to an obviously bad tree, which also means that it CAN'T be an
absolute statement of submission. If you read the entire verse and don't just
focus on the English word "obey" he's saying not to make these
people's lives hard by fighting with them. They weren't to be, as things were
in the "Shepherding" movement, the people who could tell you who to
marry, where to live, whether you could move or not, or leave, etc.
Sorry this is so long, I just anticipate where someone will
go and try to avoid it being a back-and-forth by already going there.
Graeme Campbell
I guess there are two kinds of control / manipulation. Those
who do it from a place of authority / perceived authority, and those who don't.
For guarding my heart from those who control / manipulate from a position of
authority I like 1 John 2:27:
"But the anointing which you have received from Him
abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same
anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and
just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him."
So when the control and manipulation are around having the
'right' doctrines and beliefs in order to be able to belong to a particular
group, I like how this verse makes everyone equal in their authority to hear
God and understand right doctrine for themselves from Him, while simultaneously
challenging us to abide in order to be taught by Him.
In terms of general manipulation and control, I again like
John, this time John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who
abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do
nothing."
When we abide in Him, we are in peace and hear His voice.
When control / manipulation hit us, it tries to steal our peace, and as soon as
our peace is lost it should be an alarm bell to us to return to the peace of
that abiding. I've heard the acronym FOG used for "fear, obligation, and
guilt" as the main tools of manipulators, and all of these take us out of
peace and into a fog where it's hard to make right choices. Recognizing and
guarding our peace and place of abiding are really powerful counter-weapons to
that.
Daniel Merritt
For freedom's sake you were made free...
Galatians 5:1: It is for freedom that Christ has set us
free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke
of slavery.
Tammy Renee
God will contend with those who contend with me. And every
tongue that rises up against me, thou shalt condemn. If God be For me, who can
be against me, No one!
Isaiah 54:17: “No weapon that is formed against you will
succeed; And you will condemn every tongue that [fn]accuses you in judgment.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their
vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD.
Renee Johns
John 8:36. I'm free. I get it.
Karlo De Leon
Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom π
2 Corinthians 3:17
Zee Ellyson
I use a Johnnie Cash song, "I keep a close watch on
this heart of mine..."
Kellie Robinson McNeff
No weapon formed against me shall prosper, and I am above
and not beneath.. and then I might if it's really really bad listen to Nazareth
Hair of the dog..but it has to be really bad.. because it's not a proper song..
Isaiah 54.17.
Hazel May Lebrun
Manipulation... I pray it off, pray it off... and also pray
for my enemies to be blessed... ask for angelic assistance... take a quick look
to make sure no baby sheep are in the line of fire and then... walk away from
it as much as I can.
MaryEsther Zacharias-Mark Ezekiel
2Timothy2:19-26
Becky Emerson
See to it that no one takes you captive to hollow and
deceptive philosophy which depends on human tradition and the basic principles
of this world, rather than on Christ.
Col. 2:8
Liz Adams
A person cannot serve two masters.
Matthew 6:24
Nicole Payne
I think I don't pay attention. If someone tries I walk away.
Shake the dust off my feet... Shake the neg energy away and move on.
Robin Scudder
Whom the Son sets free is free indeed!!!
John 8:36 “Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
free indeed."
Anne Sermon Stoothoff
It’s Shakespeare and a rather despicable character says it.
“To thine own self be true.” The Holy Spirit clearly spoke this to me in a life
or death situation. I’ll never forget the courage it took to stand up.
Angela Conley
Submit to one another Eph 5:21.
Angela Conley
Mat 20:25-27 don't exercise authority over others but be the
slave of all.
Micah Wade
I try to resist control/manipulation of other people.
Roger Balsley
Stand fast in the liberty where with Christ have made you
FREE
Galatians 5:1
Frank Vasquez
Mark 16:16. And joshua 1:9. π our body is a temple.
GOD lives In Me and teaches with everything need be. Meditate in HIM like a
deer panting for the waters, congregate, fellowship, and to me... Worship is
where my true strength lies in. Opening the floodgates of heaven... And where
is the kingdom?π yeeee
Stephen White
Crystal Warda Amen! yes, he certainly does set the captives
free. In 1 John 3:9 John says if we confess our sins He will 'forgive' them and
cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. That word translated as 'forgive' does not
mean how must of us modern Americans think of forgive as like to overlook
something. In reality, that word aphiēmi means sent away. It's literally the
word they use for divorce...where the husband "sent away" his wife.
So they viewed this word with a thought of something leaving which is why John
went on to say He will cleanse us.
I've been set free from a bondage before and it did come
through confession. I held on to that verse and kept confessing. BUT my
confession was basically telling our Father what I was doing wrong and how it
feels like a bondage I cant control and I'm sorry. That DID NOT get me set
free. The confession that brought me to freedom was when our Father led me to
look deeper into my heart. Then I started to realize that I was in bondage to
something because there were aspects about it that I loved, which meant that I
didnt love God with ALL my heart, mind, soul. Looking into the depths of this
reality and confessing to God the true deep reality of my heart with a deep
sorrow that pretty much felt like worthlessness, is what led Him to release me
from my bondage and set me free from it. The confession He is looking for is
for us to dig deep into the true reality of our heart and its relation to Him,
not a play by play of what we are doing wrong.
Remember God IS love, when we treat others unloving,
unforgiving, unmercifully, when we walk in sin, etc...we are working against
Love, against what Love wants to do in you and in the other person and it shows
we are not fully in love with Love with all our heart, mind, soul.
Also, I should mention there were other things that Jesus
taught that I just had to change, I had to nail a piece of myself (my previous
belief or way) on the cross in order to do His way. So our Father will set us
free from bondages, but other things that are not bondages, He expects us to
obey them.
May you hear His voice clearly and follow it.
Linda Minihane
No weapon formed against me shall prosper, praying God's
wisdom, determining strong perimeters
Ephesians 6
Stephen White
Be wise as a serpent but innocent as a dove.
Mt 10.16
Jaimee Hinman Jessee
All those forms have a root of several possible spirits:
witchcraft, jealousy, predator spirit. All open a door for a mesmerizing that
can cause disillusionment and confusion. Use Psalm 5:12 “Surely Lord your bless
the righteous and you surround them as a shield.” And also Psalm 89:5-18.
Sometimes we draw these types to us when we carry either a victim mindset or
come into agreement with a victim spirit that was sent with the other person’s
attack and agreement they made with the enemy against us. Just came into deeper
revelation on this today actually and it’s been profound to understand the
battlefield and threefold weapons of the enemy to use jealousy, victim spirit
and mesmerizing spirit as a threefold chord attack.
Jasmine Holcomb
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not
boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it
is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in
evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always
hopes, always perseveres. -
Michelle Stensgar
Matthew16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan!
You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God,
but merely human concerns."
Donna Gibbs Schofstoll
Eph 6:12
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against
the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this
present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
Grace Nyakanini
Zephaniah 3: 17b: The Lord your God is with you,
the Mighty Warrior who saves. He will take great delight in
you; in his love he will no longer rebuke you, but will rejoice over you with
singing.”
God takes GREAT delight in me.. He always looks out for my welfare and
everything concerns my life.. he rejoices over every good in my life" If
God delights.. even rejoices over my life then anything contrary to this word,
I reject over my life ..! Anything bringing anything less than delight of God
over my life I reject!
Karley Lucia
Not casting your pearls to swine
Matthew7:6 “Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw
your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack
you.
Elle Revilo
bind & rebuke ...targeted & psychological warfare
sent against me
Karen Taylor
All the in Him, through Him, in Christ scriptures. When you
know your identity, manipulation has no place to land.
Michael Markum
it's not a scripture but this works for me
May be an image of animal and text that says 'Every time you
feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words:
NOT MY CIRCUS, NOT MY MONKEYS. Polish Proverb InsideOut-theDocumentary.com'
Kriston Couchey
Jesus wept... John 11:35
Hazel May Lebrun
If they're doing it in person and I just whack em with a big
King James version, does that count? π
Roddy Young
Jesus said "let your yes be yes and your no be no,
anything else comes from the evil one" when we are not in control of our
yes and no, we are prey to the manipulation of others and ultimately the evil
one
Valerie Questad
Not a verse but I remember a shocking statement by a
Christian counselor who told me "Jesus was not a doormat!" I thought
he was speaking sacrilege. Then I learned.
Aunt Henry
“No weapon formed against me shall prosper” The scripture is
used against the enemy not people. Those being manipulative and controlling are
under demonic influence. “ we wrestle not against flesh and blood” once we get
that, we are on target.
Isaiah 54:17
Curtis Artz
John 13:34,35....pretty much covers everything....for me ✌️
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one
another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this
all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one
another."
Charlie Townsend
Galatians 1:10, The Passion Translation
10 I’m obviously not trying to flatter you or water down my
message to be popular with men, but my supreme passion is to please God. For if
all I attempt to do is please people, I would fail to be a true servant of
Christ.
Jutta Hypes
1 John 4:1 is great
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the
spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone
out into the world.
Susan Melanie Storm
Galatians 5:22-23 But
the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
I test the fruit of what choices are being made in myself as
well as others that relate to me or my family.
Al Mack
“Don’t submit to the mindsets or imitate the character of
this world, but rather let God transform how you think. With a renewed mind,
you can know God’s will for you, and live in agreement with every good,
satisfying, and life-completing word” (Romans 12:2, paraphrased by Rob Coscia).
Mabel Parada
YOU ARE NOT TO GO THAT WAY AGAIN
Deut 17:16
Steve Crane
Manipulation of someone's conscience to get money is common
on both small and large scales. 2 Corinthians 9:7
Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not
grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Susan Melanie Storm
Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for
whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
